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are not are off of that level. american express leading the way. >> no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, john boehner keeping the dialogue going and even trading new proposals but not stopping them from calling each other out. rich edson is in washington. >> that usually stops or pauses at the very least when there is progress. democrats and republicans have been stuck for weeks. the white house reduced its offer on tax increases for $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion including a willingness to begin corporate tax reform. republicans santa white house has to embrace significant spending cuts. >> during our budget we had no new revenue. look at the president's but he has $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue in his budget. we have been reasonable, responsible in our approach to this and we will continue to do that. time for the president to do his part. >> democrats say republicans have secured a one trillion dollars in spending cuts, part of last year's the deal and it is time to tax the wealthy. >> it is like a charlie brown cartoon. how many times, how many times is charlie brown going to try to k
.s. falls off the fiscal cliff, speaker john bain ser slamming the brakes on any hopes a deal is coming soon, making it clear both sides have differences. second in command, eric cantor warning members not to make any plan for holidays, and kevin brady of texas, vice chairman of joint economic committee, thank you, are we still that far apart? >> you know we are. i started optimistic to get this done before the holidays, but, i don't feel that way, it seems to me the decision has been made, perhaps by white house to take us off this fiscal cliff. i think this is irresponsible to do it we're ready to work out a reasonable sound solution but i do not see that coming from the other side right now. tracy: is it because there is so much going on behind scenes. they think there is a lot of secret wheeling and dealing with john boehner and the president do you agree? >> i do not, i think he -- they have been sporadic talks, i know speaker boehner has been frustrated with how slow the responses have been. again, you know, not just tax rates it is authentic spending cuts, if we don't find a way to fa
. interesting. fiscal cliff talk. john boehner says he is waiting for a counter offer from the white house. adam: wall street feers gauge barely pausing. our traders, are they not worried about going over the fiscal cliff quirks we are headed to the for the new york stock exchange next. ♪ twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink thecore . what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfo find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, crges and expenses. read and conder it carefully before investing. ri includes possible loss of principal. adam: the state of nevada has gambling up. dollars. slot machines are up a whopping 11%. it is a big-time for casino operators to. they lower the cost of financing their debt. melissa: will get that across the board. this is one of those times -- you were supposed to be my boat party. but you one money. [t
appreciate it. where exactly do we stand in these fiscal cliff negotiations in the latest now from our john harwood, on your stomping ground. good to see you both. what do you make of this comment from harry redd, john, saying it's unlikely we get a deal by christmas? are they posturing? they don't want to put their spending cuts on the table but want the republicans to. is this posturing? >> i think it's posturing. jay carney gave a white house briefing saying i'm not going to reveal anything about the status of the talks in negotiation beyond the fact that they took place. the support trying to hammer republicans publicly. he's got the high side public opinion on this. traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest da
on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to support risk assets. you were talking about how the dollar is melting up for the fourth consecutive day. the federal reserve will make a very active effort to continue to support risk assets. whether they're equities or commodities. the metals market had a very positive day, recovering a bit with the damage done last week. risk assets are doing well, but over the fiscal cliff for sure in december. liz: the fed, the fed, the fed. they're not going to do anything, but they might announce some sort of easing that is what we constantly talk about and wonder because that has been the trade. with it had a decent rally, the market up double digits the past year and
on the team. peter, to you first. >> not the fiscal cliff. not today. just a day at a meeting speaker john boehner at the white house, president obama extended a little olive branch in avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and had some common western democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> the white house would not disclose any details of the meeting with the president and the speaker yesterday. both sides confirming communications are open. speaker john boehner saying discussions are taking place. liz: maybe the fact they're keeping quiet may mean something is really going to happen. keep dreaming. >> does politics have to watch out what is happening in silicon valley. apple and google compete on so many different rounds. but they're actually coming together to co-compete on a bid for the patents that kodak holds. 1100 patents, half a billion dollars. they realize instead of sitting across from each other p
away from tree to be event, up 109 points. john boehner taking fiscal cliff talks and that is raising hopes among traders. cheryl: we are going to take a look at what is beyond the fiscal cliff even of washington save the country from going over that cliff we have a stock panel that has lots of worries and a bit of hope that. dennis: which makes some buzz codes when the dow is up 111. michigan's capital and besieged as protests over the right to work legislation has taken an ugly turn. we are live. cheryl: never know what is going to happen with jeff flock covering that story. we're coming up on the top of the hour. stocks every 15 minutes and nicole petallides on the floor of the stock exchange with a nice triple digit gain. nicole: what a gain on wall street. we have three straight weeks of gains to new recent highs. looking at 13,300 on the dow jones industrial, that is good and the s&p 500 calm, holding above the 1400 mark. they were worried when we were breaking down below and we are continuing the trend to the upside. one of the reasons is europe, europe has been a break out and
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
fiscal cliff. our john harwood is live at the white house with more on that. john, good morning. >> good morning, carl. you know the president's been very clear since the election that republicans need to give on taxes for people at the top and not just on revenues, but also on tax rates because he says the math can't work otherwise. we've seen some signs of cracking in the republican unity. that suggests we may be getting to the next phase of negotiations. the latest sign was possible corker, the senator from tennessee, who was on our air just a few minutes ago, as you know, saying republicans should concede ground on top tax rates and then get on to other issues. >> the best place for republicans to be, to me, is to pass the rate of rate increases, be done with it, the numbers aprobably much smaller than is going to ultimately be negotiated, and then we still are focused on the right thing, which is entitlement changes. >> and that may be what john boehner and president obama are discussing yesterday, and in the days to come. because, speaker boehner needs some concessions from the pre
, and ten year treasury down to 1.59%. no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to
with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economi for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not the case. it is, without a doubt, a cliff. it's $600 billion. the economy cannot withstand that shock. it's slowing in anticipation. lou: $6 billion in taxes? >> spending reductions and tax increases. the economy can't handle that. without a doubt, head into recession if we're over the cliff. lou: now, are you in agreement? >> i am, carl's absolely right, nevertheless, the markets have effectively be
disapprove of how house speaker john boehner is handling the fiscal cliff talks. dennis: this as the speaker himself came out this morning saying there's a lot of work to do. rich edson is in washington d.c. bureau. what is the very latest? rich: in a republican congressman with knowledge of the talks as the two side are farther apart than they were last summer when debt talks between president obama and john boehner fell apart. republicans and democrats have new debt proposals on the table. the speaker says there are still serious differences. >> the president is calling for $1.4 trillion -- that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> force is a question of balance. we are willing to make sure everyone in america sacrifices a little. even those who have been struggling. liz: congress is running out of time to get this wrapped for christmas. the speaker would have to cover significant ground giving congress the week it needs to write, sell land pass any deal next week. aides say they are not close to a compromise. house majority leader eric cantor says republicans are prepared to work on th
to averting the fiscal cliff. president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all
to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> ho, ho, ho. i like the bells, too. let's ring some bells. >> president obama on thursday lit the national christmas tree or as fox news reported it, obama insults israel. >> what are reteaching in south korean schools? >> of course, he sang his gangnam style for his christmas in washington special. >> if you're dancing right now, doing this dance, stop. >> back to the electric slide. >> if brian were three to four feet taller. >> the leg is hard. >> i repeat, zero tax increases. now, why would i do that? i had the leverage. simply put, i felt sorry for this man. >> there are a lot of things that are possible, but none of it is going to be possible if the president insists on his position. >> they've taken by milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> how much juice does boehner have? back in the day you could really twist arms -- >> jumped out and pelted me with eggs, rotten eggs. >> he can be the speaker of a bloc of republicans working with democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right. >> you get what you want. you leave this poor, orange man alone. >> a
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won't want to miss it. >>> still a stalemate over the fiscal cliff on capitol hill. house speaker baner making comments earlier. meanwhile, a new poll out today on the cliff, economy and our leaders in washington. john harwood live at the wlous with more on that, john, over to you. >> reporter: sue, we will have full details tonight after 6:30 p.m. but for now, we've got one early release question which the results will not come as a surprise to anybody on our network because the desire by the public for law makers in washington to make a deal is very strong. when we ask people, do you want both sides to compromise on their positions, even if that means cuts in social security and higher taxes, or do you want them to stick to their position, 65% of the american people say they want both parties to compromise only 28% say stick to your positions. that is very consistent with the desire on wall street. and it is on main street as well, to get something done. and as you mentioned, sue, there has not been much external signs of a deal. though we did have an exchange of offers and that
critical republic who criticized house speaker john boehner over own party fiscal cliff honor says is he resigning. an important man, too. south carolina senator jim demint a key force behind the tea party movement. the founder of the tea party caucus in the senate and who predicted that the healthcare debate would be president obama's water loo. remember that? earlier this week he argued that speaker boehner's proposal tax hikes would destroy jobs. but senator demind says his resignation has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. it's because he has accepted a job as president of the conservative think tank the heritage foundation. jim demint served three terms as a u.s. congressman from south carolina before voters first elected him to the senate in 2004. mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. it's a big resignation,. >> jim demint says is he leaving the senate, shep he is not leaving the fight. in fact, demint might be able to spend more time on issues he is most passionate about at the heritage foundation. he explained his thinking on "special report" a short time ago. >> i think i'm
you, guys. >> earlier this hour, you heard democratic senator mark warner's take on the fiscal cliff. now republican senator john barraso is coming up. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. halls of congress all day today as part of our mission critical coverage. this morning chairman kent conrad sat down with becky quick and jim cramer. let's hear what he had to say about reaching a deal. >> we are on the cusp of having the possibility of doing the big d
specifically about avoiding the fiscal cliff. we are mere weeks from that, you know, basically kicking in, first of the year. that's when everyone's taxes would be going up. that happened just yesterday. and also you have all these pro union protests happening not too far away in lansing, michigan. we have a correspondent there as well. we'll talk to here. jessica yellin to you in washington. and, first things first, you think here michigan, you think the birth place of unions and you think about all these people who are very frustrated with this, everything i read, it seems to be pretty much a done deal, this right to work legislation, that the governor has indicated he would sign. these are the folks who helped elect the president not too long ago. should the president step in and go to bat for them? >> well, you know, the unions have been enormously supportive of the president as you point out. not only during this campaign, not only as foot stole jer sold helping get out the vote, but also financially with their dollars. the white house already expressed its support for the unions opp
. dennis: president obama pushing the fiscal cliff to the business leaders. cheryl: speaker john boehner is getting an earful saying he is caving. rich edson is in washington with more. >> perhaps folks in washington are thinking maybe these two sides will get down to actually doing sometime soon but they say that is noo happening right now. house speaker john boehner said he's willing to sit down and talk to the president. we asked the white house if they plan on calling the speaker of the house inviting him over for a phone call, the white house hasn't responded to that question. coming down to two objects. >> if all you're relying on his closing exceptions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is not wise to do as a practical matter. >> they will come from guess who. the rich. there are ways to limit the options, close the polls and have them pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> that seems to be the key to this entire fiscal cliff mess. president obama saying the roundtable was struck by ceo's willingness to pay higher taxes and patriotic duty
speaker john boehner who is making an announcement on the fiscal cliff right now. >> his promise to bring a balanced approach is mainly tax hikes. and does not solve our debt crisis, it increases spending. our plan meets these standards, cuts spending and paves the way for real job growth in our country. in the five weeks since we've signaled our willingness to forge an agreement with the president, he's never put forth a plan that meets these standards. and frankly, it's why we don't have an agreement today. the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. the president has said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balanced plan. but what we hear from the president is continuing only discussion on one side of the ledger. it has always been about tax rate increases, and nothing about spending. and we insist, say, look, mr. president, let's talk about a balanced plan, but where are your specifics on the spending cuts? even his own advisers say that any kind of
at the fiscal cliff and we look at john boehner and you're right, he did give up revenue. he said okay. i'm going to cave on that. we'll raise revenue. but the president has been absolutely adamant, i'm not budging unless the top 2% pay a higher rate. not just revenue, a higher rate. >> the top 2% will pay higher taxes because of the revenue rates that we will raise without raising the tax rates. once you raise the tax rates, they become permanent. you can't change them. it will be almost impossible to change them and of course, that affects, like i say, almost a million small businesses and about 700,000 jobs. that's what the american people aren't getting from the debate on this subject. frankly, it is a bait and switch because the president has put out a plan that even democrats won't support that literally will not work, that literal israeli going to cause even more spending than we have right now, and put us even more than the 16 trail, $300 billion debt that we're incurring, going up every day. >> steve: senator, for generations, americans have always tried to make sure that our chi
problem. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> south carolina tea party says jim demint is resigning. >> leaving the senate a lot better than i found it. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. then again -- captioning funded by cbs en
the fiscal cliff that ended that rally, stocks coming off their highs, index, swung 102 points over second, and s&p finished where it began, nascar -- nazdaq down over 8 points, and trading on big board, busiest in the week, walmart a big mover, dropping retailer part of an overall weak group, best answer, profit taking with the sell-off walmart up, 18 -- almost 19ers in on the year, 10 year, yield rising to 1.69%, and crude market, up, joining me now, wells fargo chief economist, john silviia, 6.5% is target for fed chairman and the fed, that is the unemployment rate they want to hit, i have never heard of the fed doing this before. have you? >> no, this is -- there is a danger for fed being so specific. in a particular number, what we've seen, in the last two years, is that the unemployment rate has dropped, for whatever reason, by a 1% each year, that means 7. searc 7 we could be 6.n one year, is that is far ahead of between 15 -- the 2015 in the marketplace. lou: terrible thing about that is and would be, it would be the result of more people leaving the labor force, rather than more j
has announced that the house gop has sent a counteroffer on the fiscal cliff deal to president obama. let's go right to rich edson for more on this breaking story. rich? >> aides say this is an exchange of partial proposals to try to get the ball moving a little bit after some type of impasse over the last few days. this is basically an offer that the house republicans say they have just sent to the white house but there are still major difference ares here. this is from a boehner spokesperson saying the longer the white house slow-walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. there is major business lobbyist out there telling us right now the discussions are focusing on process. how do to it. not necessarily substance. so there are no details on what these offers exactly state. they're not even really getting out on capitol hill right now. so we're still watching it to maintain. again you've got the exchange of partial offers at least coming out of the white house and from house republicans but they still remain fairly far apart. melissa: rich, you have been ri
and republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the month. john harwood is live, good morning. >> good morning, we're tracking what pressure exists from the public from voters on members of congress on the administration for resolving the fiscal cliff and there are a couple of findings i want to run through. first of all there is more public pressure on republicans to compromise than on democrats. if you look at the results of the survey, 20% of americans say the message of the election was that republicans need to compromise with the president. 9% said that the message was that president obama needs to compromise and the plurality, 44% said both ought to compromise. those results aren't so surprising because president obama won the election but if you look at the number who would be to blame if we don't get a deal, you see 21% blame the president and democrats in congress, 23% blame republicans, pretty even, 52% says they blame both of them. some other surveys have shown president obama with a stronger hand. we looked democrats in congress together with the president, any tim
in washington as house members returned to town today with just 21 days left to avert that so-called fiscal cliff, and if the framework for an agreement isn't reached by the end of the week, lawmakers could be spending christmas in d.c. tracie potts has those good morning. >>> the president sitting down with john boehner, the staff sitting behind closed door, but today republican members come back to capitol hill and boehner may have a problem. >> all these members are going to come back to town, and they're going to want to play a role in these negotiations. >> the house is back today. that means conservative republicans who insist the wealthy keep this year's tax breaks could put the squeeze on their own party. that's the one thing president obama refuses to bend on. otherwise he says he's flexible. >> i understand, you know, people have a lot of different views. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> so are some republicans to save tax breaks for the middle class now and deal with the wealthy later. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we possibly can. >> polls sho
. house speaker john boehner says that deal fell short. speak of the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards as laid out the day after the election. the plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. >> it is not a realistic position to say that we can resolve this by extending tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and vaguely promising that we will lean additional revenue by closing loopholes and counting deductions in a way everyone knows is unrealistic. >> republicans continue to refuse to raise tax rates on wealthier families, the official claims a concession would open a pathway to a deal, however republicans and democrats are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart on how large of a tax increase congress should pass and how much spending it should cut. thank you. david: this time their representatives of utility companies saying tax hikes, find out which ones could kill the stocks. find out why would we talk to two of the ceos live from d.c. liz: and look at the two pretty significant and historic
fiscal cliff at year's end. aides to president obama and house speaker john boehner, sitting down on thursday. but no progress was made. the sticking points, tax rates for wealthy americans, a possible lifting of the nation's debt ceiling and cutting spending on entitlements. >>> and in yet another bizarre twist in the bizarre saga of software tycoon john mcafee. mcafee was rushed to the hospital thursday from a detention center in guatemala city, after complaining of chest pains. he's now back in his cell and could be send back to belize, where police want to question him about the murder of his neighbor. >>> now, here's diane sawyer with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> so, josh, it's friday. it's great to talk to you. and how about a holiday tradition for years? everybody wondering, what happened to the determined little boy they loved? well, he's all grown up. and he has a perfect gift for you. tonight, behind the scenes of a christmas classic. and he is our "person of the week" tonight. >> cannot wait to see that. >>> and finally, well, we would be remiss if we
clear the fiscal cliff, by closing loopholes in taxes has outraged anti-tax conservatives and when he removed conservatives from the key bathses of the past. >> $800 billion in 10 years that, looks like a tax increase. 238 republicans, including me, took a pledge not to raise taxes. >> they want to send a message to me, to send a message to others that we are not going to tolerate people who are interested in doing what's right, we want to play the same game. if you try to disrupt that, we will knock you off a committee. >> reporter: conservatives were tossed off the house budget committee and others were bounce from the financial services committee. benching conservatives have boehner under fire from conservative group, including the heritage foundation, red state dot-com, freedom works and the heavy hitting club for growth. >> if you keep doing this, we may have to replace you. >> it is bad policy. it is awful politics. and it is -- it will -- it will guaranteed, it will lose him the speakership of the house in 2 years. >> reporter: the republicans lost the majority inuent 06, when
on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff were going no where on capitol hill. each side continues to dig in. but even if the president and house speaker john baner are able to reach a deal, there is no guarantee it would pass the lame duck congress. some say they are not sure they could go along with it. and some democrats might balk as well. everybody agrees that something has to be done, but so far no deal. >> first if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes go up on january 1st. a typical middle class family of four will get a $22 tax hike. that would be bad for families. it would be bad for businesses, and it would drag down our entire economy. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $sick teen trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will control the debt. >> let's say hello to our political panel. debbie is the former chair of vice president al gore's 2000 campaign in michigan. nice to see you. and chip is a former governor, nice to see you chip. let me talk to you about the ide
have won. >>> house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday exchanging new fiscal cliff proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday and he went down a couple of hundred billion from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion over ten years. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters, of "abc news," president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> remain optimistic there are enough people of good will in this country families will be much better off when we get this done. the most important thing is make sure middle class taxes don't go up on january first and i'm pretty sure republicans would not hold middle class tax cuts hostage to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> prediction, are you going to be able to raise taxes yes or no? >> taxes will go up one way or another. the key is to make sure taxes go up on high end individuals, like you and me, barbara, we can afford it. >> you can see the rest of that interview on abc's 20/20 this friday. hopefully, you will hear barbara walters come pellingly say will be able to cut spending? d
the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the car that killed brown. >>> morsi rescinded much of the de krch decree. a disputed draft of the constitution for the country. >>> mandy drew is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mandy. >> good morning, natalie. lots of headwind from overseas, political shakeup in italy and sharply slowing down chinese export growth, keeping u.s. traders on edge not to mention the vagaries of the fiscal cliff. markets move with progress or lack of progress as the case may be. the congressional budget office says we could be back in recession the first half of next year if a deal is not reached. those are things they're watching. >> mandy drury at the new york stock exchange, thanks. >>> someone
fiscal cliff talks with the white house. on capitol hill for one day at least, all was pretty quiet. posturing and finger pointing kind of stopped. cnn political reporter shannon travis joins us now live from washington. what's the the latest on the talks or the silence? >> the silence seems to be golden, john. remember last week when all the players involved seem to be posturing and positioning and talking about negotiations? not so much, at least in the past few days. we know president obama and house speaker john boehner had a one-on-one meeting, right, on sunday, their first since mid-november. what were the details from that meeting and from the ongoing discussions? they're not really -- both sides are not really being forthcoming with what the substance of those conversations, both sides yesterday, the white house and the republican leadership put out statements. they're essentially the same. i'll read just one from boehner's press secretary. discussions with the white house are taking place but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republi
of going over the fiscal cliff. let's get you updated on the market as we do every 15 minutes, stocks now. let's go to the floor of the new york stock exchange. the market having a good day today. nicole: indeed. we have been over the 13,300 mark but still holding onto stellar games, lori and melissa. so up triple digits up 110 points so really is a nice showing. 28 of the 30 dow components in the green. we heard from house speaker john boehner. the overall sentiment after he spoke is a few negative pieces of language in his speech that ultimately in the end he was trying to say they're trying to work it out. smooth it over, ultimately. they know a couple of trends we are seeing, technology, materiall, two areas coming under pressure recently starting to turn. europe seeing improvement helping equities along as well. lori: not sure if you mentioned the fed. we were talking about it at the top. talking about their expectations of ben bernanke. nicole: would even throw out the idea of stimulus? that helped things along pushing us along throughout this entire last six months. lori: absolutel
. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a listen. >
for questioning about murder in belize. >>> to reach an agreement on a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. financial experts were on capitol hill yesterday to talk about the negative impacts if the automatic tax increases and spending cuts happen on january 1st. president obama visited a northern virginia family who would suffer finally if a -- financially if a deal isn't reached. the president's approval rating is at its highest point since the raid that killdee killed osama bin laden. 42% believe the nation is heading in the right direction. >>> the san diego zoo two new additions. they're 14 week old clouded leopard cubs and their adorable. they are brothers and playful. they like to pounce on each other and climb and use each other as trampolines. they arrived earlier from the nashville view where there's a successful breeding program saying hello for the endangering expertise. they are adorable but grow into big guys. >> you want to take them home until they get really big. >> and send them back to the zoo. >> it's 5:20 hoping to stop the slide. did the raiders beat the broncos in oakland last
for these massive spending cuts that would come at the end of the year if we go over the fiscal cliff. the white house saying they don't expect we will. they still hope it can be prevented, but they have to start planning. also, speaker of the house john boehner meeting with small business leaders on capitol hill where he reiterated some of his key points. again, just within the past hour. take a listen. >> business owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that vi
, we know you'll be on it. >>> we're going to turn to the latest on the fiscal cliff. just 26 days before everyone's taxes go up and programs get cut. jon karl is following it all. a small breakthrough yesterday, president obama and house speaker john boehner got on the phone. >> reporter: that may not sound like much, george. but it's the first time the two men have spoken in a week. and what may be the most significant sign of progress, neither side talked about what was said on the call, an indication they may be serious about negotiating in private. >> we're starting to see some republicans concede that tax rates on the wealthy, at least, are going to have to go up. the president has another rock-hard bottom line. that's an increase in the u.s. debt limit, as well. >> reporter: that's right. republicans even top republicans, say the tax rates are going to almost certainly go up. but on this question of the debt ceiling, the government reaches the limit of how much money it can borrow in february. republicans say they will exact a price for that. they want spending cuts, if they
left until the fiscal cliff, but there's signs this morning the stalemate in washington is starting to break. >> and that's good news for both sides of the aisle. president obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face sunday for the first time in nearly a month. major garrett is at the white house with where things stand this morning. >> reporter: speaker boehner has told the white house and his fellow house republicans he wants the outlines of a fiscal cliff deal no later than this saturday. and if that's to be achieved, events of this past weekend may have proved piftal. obama and boehner met here at the white house sunday, and that meeting left both hopeful those subsequent conversations at the staff level achieved little apparent progress. even so, the president extended the invitation to boehner friday after boehner, for the first time in a press conference, publicly at least hinted he might be open to raising the top income tax rates on the top 2% of american household income earners. that may have cleared an opening for the president and boehner if that did, in fact,
by this weekend. so this weekend is the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: because it takes a while to write the bills. >> eric: and has to originate in the house and right now, john boehner and president obama are miles apart allegedly. it doesn't look like they're gotting any closer. so it's got to go to the house, then gets sent, assuming it passes, to the senate, gets marked up and has to be agreed upon in committees and conference and then eventually gets signed by the president. >> steve: it just takes time. >> eric: there is a holiday. >> gretchen: somebody who had to handle something similarly about a decade ago was rudy guiliani when he was mayor of new york city. he was faced with a circumstance of do i raise taxes? do i cut spending? do i do a combination of both? he was on hannity last night explaining what he ultimately decided to do. >> i was given a report, report said, you have to raise taxes across the board. said nothing about reducing spending. and i said to myself, i wasn't an economic expert then. i became one after being mayor of new york. and i said, this doesn't make sense. if
boehner could be off to a fresh start in their efforts to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. the president resumed discussions with boehner on wednesday. however, treasury secretary tim geithner kept up the tough talk telling cnbc the administration would let automatic spending cuts and tax increases take effect if republicans refused to raise tax rates on upper income americans. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton and russia's foreign minister are holding surprise talks today on the deepening crisis in syria. the u.s. is concerned that syrian president assad's regime is on the verge of releasing chemical weapons against its own people. allies want assad to step down to prevent bloodshed. russia is syria's strongest ally. so support for any plan is critical. >>> search and rescue teams are still finding survivors two days after a powerful typhoon bopha struck the southern philippines, but the death toll has climbed beyond 375, and hundreds of people are still missing there. survivors include a 3-year-old child pulled from under a crumbled house and a man who lived for two days eating no
over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect taxes for high-income individuals. >> reporter: the president and house speaker john boehner are at least talking. the president made an offer monday, asking for $1.4 trillion in new taxes over ten years. including raising tax rates on the wealthy. the speaker counter on tuesday. offering $800 billion in new tax revenue, all from closing loopholes and limiting deductions. house republicans say they need more specificity from the president on spending cuts. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and the president argues that he outlined spending cuts in his last budget proposal, more than $550 billion worth. they're still on the table. negotiations will continue later today. josh? >> as that cliff looms. jake tapper, thank you for that. >>> meanwhile, calling it a big step, president obama has announced the u.s. will recognize syria's main oppositi
. >>> republicans and democrats continue to battle over how to aavoid this fiscal cliff. many of us and many of you standing behind the president when asked who was handling the crisis better, 49% support president obama and the democrats while only 25% support house speaker john boehner and the republicans. so if there's no deal and the tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, we feel the impact. christine romans sat down with this panel for a report on the bottom line. here's part of the conversation she had with a working mom, small business owner and a woman looking for work. >> i have a household to run. still have rent and bills to pay, and i need help. i need help. >> three kids? >> yeah. >> how old are your kids, 23, 18, and 11. >> what do you tell them when they see the economy in front of them and hear all this fighting in washington about the fiscal cliff. you've been looking for a job for more than six months now. are you more optimistic or less than things will turn around next year? >> i believe it's going to turn around. it will probably take a little time, but i think it will. >> yo
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